tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post3069092331947126415..comments2023-12-15T07:22:02.492-05:00Comments on The Tao of Stieb: Lineup Melancholy and the Infinite LindnessTao of Stiebhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-6634122679356660812012-05-05T05:58:32.238-04:002012-05-05T05:58:32.238-04:00I have been thinking the same thing myself. Lind h...I have been thinking the same thing myself. Lind has said himself that he's not good out of the cleanup spot, and his numbers show it. Batting 4th, he's .241/.292/.420 career. Out of the 5 hole, he's .278/.335/.489. Much better. In 2009, his career year so far, he split time between the 3 and 5 spots, with only 4 starts at cleanup. He hit .315/.394/.548 out of the 5 hole.<br />I like his glove at first, but maybe it's time to end the experiment at cleanup. EE is destroying everything in sight right now, and if you really, really need a lefty in cleanup the odd time, Eric Thames would certainly be worth a look.yerouttaheahhttp://www.hellodesign.canoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-48053025265258786192012-05-04T09:07:47.975-04:002012-05-04T09:07:47.975-04:00Gee, who does that wonderful calligraphy on the li...Gee, who does that wonderful calligraphy on the lineup card?Chadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10912862811538785600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-21875300487124914082012-05-04T08:01:06.839-04:002012-05-04T08:01:06.839-04:00Jose will not move to 1st base this year. We need...Jose will not move to 1st base this year. We need his arm in RF. More likely, they will bring up Snider as the LF, move Thames to DH and EE to 1st base.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-14695682132428453002012-05-03T19:16:14.164-04:002012-05-03T19:16:14.164-04:00I'm just sick of seeing Lind swing feably at s...I'm just sick of seeing Lind swing feably at stuff in the dirt from every Lefthander. <br />I am in the camp that believes he has overstayed his welcome. So much so that I found myself wondering if Lyle Overbay was around. <br />If you really look at Lind's career, 2009 was the outlier, with 2010 & 11 being more in line. <br />The Jays will give him until June. If snider is still raking then he will come up and play RF, with Jose going to 1B. You can't win anything with a clean up hitter who has an OBP under .300Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-59529693850651506572012-05-03T14:51:21.773-04:002012-05-03T14:51:21.773-04:00@ Ty
I missed him saying that. He couldn't ha...@ Ty<br /><br />I missed him saying that. He couldn't have figured all that 'logic' out before he announced the seemingly permanent move? <br /><br />Seemingly Farrell is sticking to this 100 AB/40 game thing, which at least he isn't some normal manager miser who just keeps a guy in a line-up spot out of spite. Regardless, I think it looks poorly on his acumen, and I will continue to mock him ignoring Lind's lesser abilities to Encarnacion, and his putrid ability to hit lefties. It's moronic.Shane Leavitthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04427737836943272424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-29032734085438391142012-05-03T13:37:58.610-04:002012-05-03T13:37:58.610-04:00@Shane:
Farrell's stated reasoning for moving...@Shane:<br /><br />Farrell's stated reasoning for moving EE back to 5th was that batting him cleanup would force him to use back-to-back lefties somewhere in the lineup, allowing the opposing team to use a lefty specialist against TWO players instead of one. That's actually incorrect (5 RHB and 4 LHB in the lineup means you have to stack righties SOMEWHERE, so why not the middle?), but that's what he said. <br /><br />Even if it was true, what's worse: the possibility of facing a situation where a lefty specialist comes in to face your back-to-back left handed batters (or, heaven forbid, you use one of the FOUR right-handed bats off your bench in response), or allowing for the aforementioned neutralization of Bautista and EE by letting teams use a lefty against Lind in big situations? It's illogical in so many levels.Tyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11878921441543129555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-10418850134067750602012-05-03T12:23:56.605-04:002012-05-03T12:23:56.605-04:00"We think that Lind can be a halfway decent c...<i>"We think that Lind can be a halfway decent contributor - and far less of a pariah - in a lineup in which he slides further down. The Blue Jays might think that he still has a 30-homer bat, but we'd prefer if they let him hit those dingers out of the sixth or seventh spot in the order."</i> <br /><br />So rational. But yet ol' Johnny boy Farrell doing John Farrell things. Wonder what happened after Farrell announced a week ago that EE would be the cleanup hitter? that lasted 1 day.Shane Leavitthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04427737836943272424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-12704420427775773252012-05-03T12:14:45.599-04:002012-05-03T12:14:45.599-04:00At the very least, the Jays ought to try using Lin...At the very least, the Jays ought to try using Lind as a platoon player and see what happens. We know he can't hit against lefties, so why keep pushing it? If he can put up respectable numbers as the lefty half of a platoon, that would be awesome. And if he can't, then maybe it's time to think about sending him packing - but not until you at least <i>try</i> putting him in a position that (a) gives him the best chance to succeed, and (b) maximizes the team's chances of winning. But playing him every day - let alone batting him cleanup - doesn't accomplish either of those things.Tyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11878921441543129555noreply@blogger.com