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I emailed Sportsnet, and SWORE I would document all their sponsors, and NOT patronize them anymore! If they want to market to their "the throngs of latent homosexual hockey fans", so be it...but the only way to get our point across, is to quit shopping at Home Hardware, or Roger's stores, etc etcAndy MCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-44037933023894839402009-04-09T11:23:00.000-04:002009-04-09T11:23:00.000-04:00Bah... TSN is absolute garbage as an outlet to wat...Bah... TSN is absolute garbage as an outlet to watch sports anyway. I gave up on hockey a long time ago, but they have the nerve to air Jays games with Rod Black doing play by play, then they pull the unholy shit of airing Formula 1 races and cutting to commerical in MID SENTENCE. I know BBC doesn't run ads, but don't make it so goddamn obvious. TSN should be replaced by MLB Network CanadaSpartienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-2177861191231012012009-04-09T11:06:00.000-04:002009-04-09T11:06:00.000-04:00@ dave: the bring-him-home guy was sitting just a ...@ dave: the bring-him-home guy was sitting just a few rows in front of me (no you can't see me on the video). Annoying as hell.<BR/><BR/>As for entrance music, I was appreciating Aaron Hill's choices on Tuesday night. Alex Rios always uses the same song but I like it. And I'm pretty sure Doc didn't get to choose "Doctor, Doctor". It would be nice if he could actually get to use something he likes.<BR/><BR/>Love all the comments about the coverage. Moving Jamie to a possible post-game show is the best idea EVER. God, we need a good play-by-play man.MK Piatkowskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03121227101455959849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-1446901232765302752009-04-09T10:30:00.000-04:002009-04-09T10:30:00.000-04:00If it makes you guys feel any better, I don't get ...If it makes you guys feel any better, I don't get a whole lot of Jays coverage here in the states. Baseball Tonight treats them ALMOST fairly, but they're hardly ever on SportsCentER.<BR/><BR/>The Big Ten Network is awesome, BTW. I do love seeing my lady Buckeye Volleyball team in action. ROWR!Stedronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01505875328065401356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-38436515117718987652009-04-09T08:43:00.000-04:002009-04-09T08:43:00.000-04:00I haven't seen Dan Pleasac as a broadcaster. Perso...I haven't seen Dan Pleasac as a broadcaster. Personally, I don't know how he is viewed, but I love me some Darren Fletcher in the broadcasting booth.<BR/><BR/>Maybe because he was both an Expos and a Blue Jays player that I'm fan? I don't know, I love listening to him.<BR/><BR/>April 8, 2009 2:38 PM<BR/>Quote<BR/><BR/>I've seen Dan P on MLB network and he sucks. he is stiff and looks terrible on camera. His commentary is good BUT the way he speaks is like a rube from the Midwest. I'd rather watch Mr May, Winfield on ESPN Baseball Tonight weekends.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-34309406838241225192009-04-09T01:54:00.000-04:002009-04-09T01:54:00.000-04:00Excellent post about the lack of committed basebal...Excellent post about the lack of committed baseball coverage and talk, Tao. And hat tip to those who contributed in the comments here - well thought out stuff. I know railing against Sportsnet/TSN/insert whatever Canadian sports network is the norm (for good reason, I might add), it was insightful to see the sports channel's side of the debate here. First and foremost, it is about the bottom line and like the domination of NCAA basketball, football and the NFL in US networks during their respective seasons, hockey in Canada will be pumped and over saturated to the masses until the demand declines. Only then will people notice the overabundance of supply and see network wide scale downs.bkbladeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14993067848904779017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-24540879877283052352009-04-08T22:34:00.000-04:002009-04-08T22:34:00.000-04:00Jays lose. Let the wailing and gnashing of teeth b...Jays lose. Let the wailing and gnashing of teeth beginmathesondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05841079316846305593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-78420849465029436592009-04-08T19:35:00.000-04:002009-04-08T19:35:00.000-04:00Rogers must've read this Tao. Way to make it happe...Rogers must've read this Tao. Way to make it happen!Ian Hunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01074587524873409802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-68573963011468012692009-04-08T19:05:00.000-04:002009-04-08T19:05:00.000-04:00And the day of this rant, Sportsnet runs a Jays pr...And the day of this rant, Sportsnet runs a Jays pregame show. <BR/><BR/>Imagine that.Tao of Stiebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-75194005904499629892009-04-08T17:30:00.000-04:002009-04-08T17:30:00.000-04:00If TSN and Sportsnet and the Score and everyone el...<I>If TSN and Sportsnet and the Score and everyone else feels this is the only way that they can continue to sell putrid beer and pickup trucks to the throngs of latent homosexual hockey fans, then so be it.</I><BR/><BR/>Bahahahahaha! Gold!Stoetenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11599405668168100016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-66944517490295611812009-04-08T17:25:00.000-04:002009-04-08T17:25:00.000-04:00I am currently traveling in the US and my ability ...I am currently traveling in the US and my ability to get any Jay info is limited at best…I can’t adequately explain my frustration in having to resort to watching mlb.com to see if we got a hit or an out…ESPN simply does not show any Jay related clips unless they are playing the yanks or the sox. Believe me Toronto is a Jay-Shangri-La, we need to appreciate what we got.KingofCabbagetownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-23847061331540318142009-04-08T17:10:00.000-04:002009-04-08T17:10:00.000-04:00I agree, great discussion. I posted something on ...I agree, great discussion. I posted something on my own little corner of the nerd that sums my feelings up. It's not that the networks don't care about baseball or baseball fans, they don't care about hockey fans either. They only care about promoting their own properties as frequently and blatantly as they can. <BR/><BR/>"What's wrong with looking out for No 1?" - chairman of multinational communications firm accused of orchestrating coup in developing country.Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07271534213351978408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-43479566369691343052009-04-08T17:02:00.000-04:002009-04-08T17:02:00.000-04:00I know this is lame, but great discussion, my frie...I know this is lame, but great discussion, my friends. <BR/><BR/>And "X Gon Give it to Ya" for Nady is pretty bad ass.Navin Vaswani (@eyebleaf)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08445618400360263938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-71654493294668552442009-04-08T15:38:00.000-04:002009-04-08T15:38:00.000-04:00Yep, Jays connected will be back again for another...Yep, Jays connected will be back again for another year. I'm not sure if it'll at the same level it was last year, because the main producer left to start his own company, but there is definately still quite a few people running around working on it. <BR/><BR/>As for the half hour post game show: This has been my mission for a little under a year now. I want to make that happen more than anything else I can accomplish, for all the reasons you and others who have commented here have outline. We deserve it, frankly. I'm privileged to watch a lot of out-of-market baseball games, and EVERY SINGLE ONE has a post-game show, with the exception of the Jays. With Mike Wilner working across the street (who, by this point, has achieved a level of respect from actual baseball fans in this city), Jeff Blair routinely making appearances on Primetime, and the fact that the Jays colour booth rotates between 3 different people, you would think that somewhere in there, you could find a guy to come in and talk baseball for half an hour 4 or 5 days a week. <BR/><BR/>I've done a lot of cage-rattling and talking with the powers that be, trying to get this seriously looked at, but there's only so much that I can do alone. Please, PLEASE, make your voices heard. Steal words that I used verbatim. Every other Major League team has a postgame show, Toronto deserves one too. 48,000 passionate people showed up to the game on Monday. If we can show the same passion towards getting proper coverage, maybe we can make a difference. We're all in this together. As a hilite maker, and a baseball fan I would be delighted to make extra-long packs that get more in depth to the nuances of the game that other baseball fans can appreciate, instead of going: Pitcher iso, home run, home run, game winning run, in each and every 40 second baseball pack we run during normal shows. <BR/><BR/>My ideal situation: Someone better than Jamie Campbell does play-by-play, Jamie takes over the post-game show, Gregg Zaun retires, and becomes the analyst. As bad as the broadcasts may be, I found their insights during the World Series to be reasonably worthwhile.Archihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02151272110728462869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-9725786907820933732009-04-08T15:34:00.000-04:002009-04-08T15:34:00.000-04:00Love the idea of a post game show. Why not film Wi...Love the idea of a post game show. Why not film Wilner's JaysTalk after the game. Sportsnet is willing to show Prime Time with Bob McGowan for an hour a day. It can't be that hard to do the same thing a Jays show.<BR/><BR/>Paul Konerko use to stroll to the plate cranking Jay-Z "Big Pimpin"Laythnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-221660223718524262009-04-08T15:18:00.000-04:002009-04-08T15:18:00.000-04:00Sorry, to clarify what we meant about JaysConnecte...Sorry, to clarify what we meant about JaysConnected: a panel would complement the behind the scenes stuff nicely...<BR/><BR/>Which begs a question: are they actually doing a The Season '09 Jays this year?Tao of Stiebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-53384330546525176252009-04-08T15:13:00.000-04:002009-04-08T15:13:00.000-04:00Thanks for the insight Archimedes. Not blowing smo...Thanks for the insight Archimedes. Not blowing smoke here, but we were actually thinking about what you would have to say about this as we wrote the post.<BR/><BR/>And it is true that once the last of the regional hockey telecasts are done, there's going to be plenty of baseball on Sportsnet. Frankly, there's more than we can fit into our schedule.<BR/><BR/>The roadblocks you mention are raised are, in fact, reasonable. But they are not insurmountable, especially if the network saw a way for themselves to corner a niche. <BR/><BR/>And look: The baseball numbers were UP for the opener! How many other sports are getting bigger numbers these days?<BR/><BR/>There is a precedent in what Sportsnet has done with the Premiership on Saturday mornings. That studio show provides a great template: knowledgeable host, knowledgeable analyst, lots of compelling chat and highlights.<BR/><BR/>Granted, Saturday morning is a different thing than weeknights...although the first half hour after the Jays broadcast would work well. (10 minutes on the night's Jays game, then the last 20 going around the league...a fantasy baseball minute...You know where we're going.)<BR/><BR/>Even just making more of JaysConnected would be a start. With apologies to Evanka, the behind the scenes segments would be much better if there were a two headed panel who really spoke with knowledge and a true passion for the game.<BR/><BR/>Okay, we're rambling...sorry.Tao of Stiebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-26702222770419159712009-04-08T15:10:00.000-04:002009-04-08T15:10:00.000-04:00The score isn't as bad as the other stations, it a...The score isn't as bad as the other stations, it at least showed them home opener before even the hockey updates, and there sports anchors don't want to make me slit my wrists listening to them fumble with every play. <BR/><BR/>Wow simulcast with Wilner would be amazing, you'd get to see the look of disbelief on his face when he deals with idiots every other call.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-6598622007591176102009-04-08T15:06:00.000-04:002009-04-08T15:06:00.000-04:00I believe Wilson Betemit sometimes used to come ou...I believe Wilson Betemit sometimes used to come out to "Betterman" by Pearl Jam.<BR/><BR/>"We needed a double but he struck out, that's Wilson Betemit"Archihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02151272110728462869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-29524855161444909852009-04-08T15:00:00.000-04:002009-04-08T15:00:00.000-04:00I love hockey as much as the next Canadian, but so...I love hockey as much as the next Canadian, but sometimes TSN can RSN can be too much. The Score is usually pretty decent with coverage of all sports, and even though they will lead off with hockey (and usually rightly so), they will soon show jays/raps highlights after the Canadian hockey teams. During an hour of their highlight show, you can also usually see highlights of every game that last longer than 30 seconds. I have the sports package, so I get every ball game live, and seeing ESPN put on a game is amazing especially with the fanfare of opening day. It's also interesting to see that after every game on a fox sports channel, there is a postgame show about the team that they're covering and from around the league. It sucks that we have to deal with RSN throwing it to their connected show (which is terrible anyways) as opposed to a hockeycentral type set about the MLB.<BR/><BR/>Also, best entrance music goes to Xavier Nady: "X gon give it to ya."Plorgashborghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04522725353205886009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-30334592312159832842009-04-08T14:53:00.000-04:002009-04-08T14:53:00.000-04:00I can't even believe I'm doing this, but:To be fai...I can't even believe I'm doing this, but:<BR/><BR/>To be fair to Sportsnet, in particular, It's a regional network. Last night, they aired a Leafs game, a Flames game, a Canucks game, AND a Sens game. There's a reason that hockey is coming first on the ledger: Nationwide, hockey draws much, much, much higher ratings. Also, there are about 4 games left in the NHL regular season. There are playoff races going on, and most of the games have implications based on where teams will finish and how matchups will look. To say that game 2 of a 162 should take priority is a touch short sighted. You're not taking into account the people across the country who do care how the Flames, Canucks, Habs, and other non-Maple Leaf teams are doing. Especially when its a baseball game that a) wasn't aired anywhere in Canada, and b) couldn't draw 15,000 people to the actual ballpark.<BR/><BR/>Finally, as for 'Sportsnet should hire a studio analyst and have a post-game show after the Jays games' all I can say to you is this: PLEASE EMAIL THE NETWORK WITH THIS IDEA. I've brought it up myself a couple of times,with people that matter, and here are the road blocks in the way.<BR/><BR/>- Who is a credible analyst that lives in Toronto? <BR/>- When does the show run, in contrast to the usual 10pm version of Connected?<BR/>- How can we possibly afford a new analyst, when they're paying the 45 members of the hockeycentral panel? <BR/><BR/>Now that I'm done wearing my Sportsnet hat, let me just say: I agree with you. I'd love a 24-hour baseball channel. If there ever is one based out of Canada, I am going to work there, end of story. <BR/><BR/>As you alluded to in your last comment: Just wait until Monday. Once the NHL regular season goes away, the only ticket Sportsnet is left holding is the one that brings you 100+ Jays games, 60+ Yankees and Red Sox games, 50+ Mariners games, Sunday night baseball, and usually any game that goes during the afternoon. <BR/><BR/>Just don't tune in at 11pm until the NHL is done with. That's hockeycentral's timeslot. 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