tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post8668955185696712452..comments2023-12-15T07:22:02.492-05:00Comments on The Tao of Stieb: Some of you we'll see in April...others, not so muchTao of Stiebhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-45659176247028531262009-09-28T22:18:07.478-04:002009-09-28T22:18:07.478-04:00Re: Scutaro
I'm a bit skeptical of a guy goin...Re: Scutaro<br /><br />I'm a bit skeptical of a guy going on 34 posting career numbers across the board in a contract year, but overall I'm in favour of re-signing Marco. Johnny Mac can match him defensively at short (if he's still around), but there's nobody on the current roster that can do what he does offensively in terms of setting the table for Hill and Lind. There aren't any potential free agents who would be an improvement in any area of the game, so unless "the plan" turns out to be a total rebuild, I think getting Marco back has to be a must.The Dubnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-82829764309193793252009-09-28T18:25:23.069-04:002009-09-28T18:25:23.069-04:00http://jayszone93.wordpress.com/2009/09/28/scutaro...http://jayszone93.wordpress.com/2009/09/28/scutaro-worth-the-risk/<br /><br />What do you guys think about re-upping him?Jayszone93http://jayszone93.wordpress.com/2009/09/28/scutaro-worth-the-risk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-69868220891324762242009-09-28T16:37:43.337-04:002009-09-28T16:37:43.337-04:00@Southpaw
You're exactly right, and I've ...@Southpaw<br /><br />You're exactly right, and I've made that point before, but usually over lagers to my friend the the Red Sox fan.<br /><br />Old media farts, who do the same job day in and day out, don't get the fact that J.P.'s job has changed significantly over his tenure.<br /><br />And there is nothing wrong with many of the things that J.P. did...it's just that they don't fit into a neat narrative line that reporters and columnists like because it simplifies things for them.<br /><br />Foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds. (Or something like that.)Tao of Stiebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-45143041855985541842009-09-28T16:27:09.994-04:002009-09-28T16:27:09.994-04:00Southpaw, that graph pretty much sums it up. For a...Southpaw, that graph pretty much sums it up. For anyone hyperventilating that "but but JP said he could contend on $50M", they're ignoring what happened <i>after</i> he came on board.<br /><br />Also, it's astonishing how many people still misunderstand what Moneyball is. It really has nothing to do with cheap payrolls, big fat 1B/DH, OBP, or any of that. It's about finding market inefficiencies. This simple concept applies to every team and corporation on the planet.<br /><br />The fact that JP's strongest teams came after the payroll increase in 2006 isn't an indictment on Moneyball. It simply proves that you have to spend in the AL East unless you want to suck shit for 10 years like the Rays. If you want to compete, you're going to have to make risky signings to put your team over the top, and ownership has to be committed to the point that if some of those signings fail they don't scrap the plan completely, but rather spend more. The Yanks and Sox have made awful signings too, but they keep spending because they realize it's the price you have to pay to keep up with each other.<br /><br />Another thing holding the Jays back is the insane amount of bad luck. Usually run differential corrects itself from year to year, as we've seen with the Rays. But the Jays have been bitten by Pythagoras such that 91, 87, and 92 win teams (3rd, 8th, 5th ranked teams in MLB) from 06-08 only had one meaningless 2nd place finish to show for it.<br /><br />So while I agree that JP needs to go for the sake of change, what he said was pretty damn obvious to anyone with a clue about the Jays' situation.SPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15861389212599241745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-28889524435935498162009-09-28T15:59:51.678-04:002009-09-28T15:59:51.678-04:00Pointing out how difficult a job JP has is not in ...Pointing out how difficult a job JP has is not in the media's interest. Complaining about JP is...Mattthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16945030075122490090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-24100349857924349272009-09-28T15:45:30.679-04:002009-09-28T15:45:30.679-04:00Beyond all that's already been pointed out, an...Beyond all that's already been pointed out, and I keep hammering this but I seem to be the only one saying it so maybe no one is listening, it's not just that JP has changed (as anyone would) after 8 years on the job, it's that the circumstances have changed.<br /><br />In 2001, the Yanks payroll was about $110 million and the #5 payroll was in the low 90's and the median team in the league was at about $60 million. The SMALLEST Payroll was about $40 million.<br /><br />That's a $70 million spread from top to bottom, and less than $20 million from the Yanks to a reasonably front-near-the-front-of-the-pack team.<br /><br />In 2008, the gap between the Yanks and the #5 team was almost $90 million. (about $210 to just over $120)<br /><br />In other words, if we DID have a $120 million payroll in 2010, we'd be further from the Yankees than the cheapest payroll in the majors was in 2001.<br /><br />THAT is what has changed, more than anything else.<br /><br />See the chart attached to my post here:<br /><br />http://bleacherreport.com/articles/242713-how-to-fix-a-problem-that-few-see<br /><br />Sadly, none of the mainstream media types can be arsed to do this kind of research.The Southpawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12978086362601077757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-72138593399070052792009-09-28T15:24:02.442-04:002009-09-28T15:24:02.442-04:00At least the person who called you a twat owned it...At least the person who called you a twat owned it. She could have done it anonymously on here.<br /><br />And she should know that you are actually a douche!Darren Priesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04577092117174508443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-87607956244754647422009-09-28T14:21:08.923-04:002009-09-28T14:21:08.923-04:00That should read "when my team", for any...That should read "when my team", for anyone who was going to give me grief about it.Tao of Stiebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-71713207781883945742009-09-28T14:20:09.274-04:002009-09-28T14:20:09.274-04:00Okay, maybe what I wanted to get across is that I&...Okay, maybe what I wanted to get across is that I'm annoyed at the level of knee-jerk negativity. The cynicism. The faux-wise poses of people who do nothing other than shit all over everything all the time.<br /><br />I don't mind listening to some griping. I just don't like having people call me a twat or an idiot or a fey twat or what have you because I'm sitting at a baseball game and I'm enjoying the brief moments of excitement that my team - to whom I've dedicated the better part of 27 seasons - has done something nice on the field.<br /><br />Because people who insist on bringing me down and calling me a twat are a bunch of dos cunts.Tao of Stiebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-44194770875387313592009-09-28T14:06:17.045-04:002009-09-28T14:06:17.045-04:00Tao
I have one quibble with you.
Complaining abo...Tao<br /><br />I have one quibble with you.<br /><br />Complaining about negativity while beating your chest about what a positive person you are is a bit ironic doncha think?<br /><br />Whining about other people being negative is the most negative thing you can do. <br /><br />Other than that, keep up the good workAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-40263631840298074052009-09-28T13:59:03.667-04:002009-09-28T13:59:03.667-04:00I'm an alliteration junkie. I can't help m...I'm an alliteration junkie. I can't help myself.Tao of Stiebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-79068966555868122282009-09-28T13:48:33.622-04:002009-09-28T13:48:33.622-04:00A little alliteration goes a long way.A little alliteration goes a long way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-53805645170753166132009-09-28T13:28:15.651-04:002009-09-28T13:28:15.651-04:00You could make some very inappropriate jokes about...You could make some very inappropriate jokes about the girls in that photoabigail breslinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-49495838904058924152009-09-28T13:26:18.963-04:002009-09-28T13:26:18.963-04:00wow. she's almost unbearably clever.
furious...wow. she's almost unbearably clever. <br /><br />furiousAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-47623579876221489602009-09-28T13:16:01.250-04:002009-09-28T13:16:01.250-04:00Tweeted as a twat on Twitter. Ouch!Tweeted as a twat on Twitter. Ouch!MRBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-14955672968971993712009-09-28T12:56:46.283-04:002009-09-28T12:56:46.283-04:00Think that way if you must. Go listen to Muse and ...Think that way if you must. Go listen to Muse and cut yourself and dye your hair into three shades of raven plumage.<br /><br />Ha. Almost peed a little. <br /><br />Who the fuck is Juliekhaner??Royhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08064319862675324423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-58984480799211175902009-09-28T12:55:55.950-04:002009-09-28T12:55:55.950-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Royhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08064319862675324423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-27915008715431786862009-09-28T11:59:25.911-04:002009-09-28T11:59:25.911-04:00J.P. did a good (not great) job. It's time to ...<i>J.P. did a good (not great) job. It's time to move on, but people should take a moment and recognize that this team is in much much better shape now then when he took it over. <br /><br />And if they don't realize that, then they are a bunch of twats.</i><br /><br />LOL. Well played. I wholeheartedly agree. Even I, J.P. supporter until the end, agree that it's time for a change, and I'm looking forward to it.<br /><br />I dream in payrolls of $120 million...Navin Vaswani (@eyebleaf)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08445618400360263938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-28536300831833615342009-09-28T11:54:28.293-04:002009-09-28T11:54:28.293-04:00The point of Moneyball was never "You have to...The point of Moneyball was never "You have to have guys who are good at these stats". <br /><br />The point was that you had to look at the market and see what was undervalued. At that time, organizations were (believe it or not) still looking at a player's batting average as a leading indicator of his worth. <br /><br />As eyeb quite rightly points out, OBP is increasingly valued amongst the big spenders, so if the Jays were to apply some of the smarter elements of Moneyball, they'd have to find other areas that are beneath the radar but that translate to wins.<br /><br />And then they'd hand those players over the Cito, so that he could park them on the bench in misuse them all year.<br /><br />J.P. did a good (not great) job. It's time to move on, but people should take a moment and recognize that this team is in much much better shape now then when he took it over. <br /><br />And if they don't realize that, then they are a bunch of twats.Tao of Stiebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-31465102997814299002009-09-28T11:47:56.413-04:002009-09-28T11:47:56.413-04:00The other thing with the Yankees is that they have...The other thing with the Yankees is that they have Jeter, Damon, Matsui, and Posada who are all on the doorstep of 40 and are all still mashing. It defies belief.Gil Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01177204960812280259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-43243124304953782832009-09-28T11:45:54.723-04:002009-09-28T11:45:54.723-04:00My modus operandi for TO in the AL East, sans $110...My modus operandi for TO in the AL East, sans $110m+ payroll, is to field a competitive team year in, year out, play some good ball for the fans, and hope you over achieve every few years to make a serious playoff run.<br /><br />JP did this, but whether it be luck, or something intangible we can't isolate, we weren't able to make that playoff run.<br /><br />He has run his course, and his mouth. I don't begrudge him and consider him to be a competant GM. I acknowledge though, that he needs to go so that I don't have to listen to the likes of "Jim" at the Battersbox anymore.Gil Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01177204960812280259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-77540465660791208032009-09-28T11:44:06.182-04:002009-09-28T11:44:06.182-04:00Nicely done as always, Tao.
I can't believe s...Nicely done as always, Tao.<br /><br />I can't believe she called you a twat. Ridiculous.<br /><br />As for Ricciardi, JoePos brought it up earlier this season; Moneyball worked in the early 2000s because Oakland exploited OBP. That idea is flawed in itself, because the Yankees and Boston have been leading OBP in the AL since 2002. Bottom line: the Yankees and Red Sox dominate the American League in the major offensive categories. Tampa Bay, until they do it again, is a one-hit wonder. It takes dollars, regardless of what Ricciardi believed when he came in and took the job. He certainly gets it now. Why don't others? Why can't others grasp what is right in front of them? The Yankees went out and signed the biggest bat and the best arm in the off-season, and Burnett came along for the ride. And, voila, they're right back on top.<br /><br />Dollars.Navin Vaswani (@eyebleaf)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08445618400360263938noreply@blogger.com