tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post8172159657103401277..comments2023-12-15T07:22:02.492-05:00Comments on The Tao of Stieb: You'll never love Vernon like you loved CarlosTao of Stiebhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-22446944027839448282009-06-17T09:27:14.983-04:002009-06-17T09:27:14.983-04:00There is a reason that even after 5 years we still...There is a reason that even after 5 years we still call him King Carlos. He WAS the franchise for the majority of 12 years.<br /><br />It's nothing against Wells that Jays fans on the whole don't hold him in the same regard. You make an excellent point that it wasn't just on-the-field that made King Carlos, and we haven't really had someone like him for the media side of baseball since he left. Part of me enjoys the quietness of the current Jays (led by Doc's example...no wonder they're quiet), but sometimes it does feel slightly lacking. (But if that's what we have to take by having Doc, I'll take it.)<br /><br />But I know for my generation of Jays fan...we grew up and the Jays were Delgado, Delgado was the Jays. He's so inextricably intertwined with my love of the Jays that I can't imagine what it would have been like had be never played in Toronto, and that has nothing to do with how many team records he holds.<br /><br />I was scared when he left because I knew we didn't have anyone to take his place offensively on the team, but I really am starting to realise now everything that left when he did.JaysGirl5https://www.blogger.com/profile/12148851638930810518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-58936765202677446722009-06-16T21:26:33.803-04:002009-06-16T21:26:33.803-04:00One other memory of Delgado. I always loved when t...One other memory of Delgado. I always loved when there was a highlight of Delgado's homers on ESPN's Sport Center. One of the announcers would say, "Delgottit." Always made me smileWilliam J. Taskerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02313204947130235560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-72381000037270261832009-06-16T21:21:10.455-04:002009-06-16T21:21:10.455-04:00Great post. One thing though. You said, "Well...Great post. One thing though. You said, "Wells is what he is." But who is he? Each year he is up, he is down. His stats are all over the place. 2006 good. 2007 bad. 2008 pretty good. 2009 really bad. It's one thing when you can count on a guy to provide one level of achievement and then state, "that's what Wells is." But you can't do that with Wells because he is all over the board.William J. Taskerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02313204947130235560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-1587250072369647192009-06-16T16:50:55.168-04:002009-06-16T16:50:55.168-04:00if wells' performance isn't making him sic...if wells' performance isn't making him sick to his stomach, then he probably isn't human. i don't care how much he is making, i've got to believe he doesn't like being booed off the field after every out he makesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-46486174720436166552009-06-16T16:44:22.233-04:002009-06-16T16:44:22.233-04:00I loved the T-Bird. I'd take it any day over t...I loved the T-Bird. I'd take it any day over the Black Jays shite we have now.Tao of Stiebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-27960951455127961102009-06-16T16:42:31.098-04:002009-06-16T16:42:31.098-04:00For those that haven't read this Verducci piec...For those that haven't read this Verducci piece about King Carlos, please do:<br /><br />http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/tom_verducci/02/24/carlos.delgado/<br /><br />Delgado for life.<br /><br />I am now going to troll ebay looking for a Delgado jersey.Navin Vaswani (@eyebleaf)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08445618400360263938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-43220873759033007172009-06-16T16:37:38.996-04:002009-06-16T16:37:38.996-04:00Cheer up, everybody! Halladay's improving:
ht...Cheer up, everybody! Halladay's improving:<br /><br />http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2009/06/16/roy-halladay-is-improving/Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09939674629429589213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-56736329539769161392009-06-16T16:22:53.603-04:002009-06-16T16:22:53.603-04:00That logo was unfortunate.That logo was unfortunate.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11931575276585212422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-61361586946590123832009-06-16T16:03:41.861-04:002009-06-16T16:03:41.861-04:00I wouldn't give up on Snider as the next big f...I wouldn't give up on Snider as the next big franchise player. After all he is still younger than the Blue Jays 2009 first round draft pick. He also has better numbers than Vernon Wells this year.JBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-39177221080857903192009-06-16T15:41:48.730-04:002009-06-16T15:41:48.730-04:00If Wells opted out of his contract, it would be a ...If Wells opted out of his contract, it would be a sign of stupidity, not pride.<br /><br />The Jays offered him the contract and backloaded it...he shouldn't feel any obligation to take some sort of noble way out, even if he sucks.<br /><br />This might be the last major league contract that he plays under, so walking away for more than $45 million would be a totally bone-headed idea.Tao of Stiebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-88046174847431168002009-06-16T15:31:16.500-04:002009-06-16T15:31:16.500-04:00I have some hope that if Wells keeps on sucking he...I have some hope that if Wells keeps on sucking he will show some pride and opt out of his contract. <br /><br />It's a million to one shot cause the PA would probably never let him do it but...<br /><br />I honestly do think he will start to come around shortly and hit to his career numbers for the rest of the year and the next 3 years or so.Christophernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-50740955193576904472009-06-16T15:23:01.054-04:002009-06-16T15:23:01.054-04:00Carlos was the best Blue Jay ever
Period
He was ...Carlos was the best Blue Jay ever<br /><br />Period<br /><br />He was so consistently good for so long that it was taken for granted.<br /><br />Vernon, really starting to hate him. There is a vibe about him that I don't like. That contract is the worst thing to ever happen to this team.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-73513615724951698072009-06-16T14:40:30.864-04:002009-06-16T14:40:30.864-04:00Great post, Tao.
Carlos really was the King. I mi...Great post, Tao.<br /><br />Carlos really was the King. I miss that cat, he was phenomenal.<br /><br />I want Vernon to be mad. I want his play to be making him sick to his stomach. I feel like Delgado would have done that.<br /><br />It seems out of the question that Wells will turn his season around, sort of how Carlos did last year, but I can dream. It's what I'm good at.<br /><br />Go Jays. Go Vernon.Navin Vaswani (@eyebleaf)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08445618400360263938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-47474914609325429652009-06-16T14:34:14.345-04:002009-06-16T14:34:14.345-04:00Good point, infieldfly.
Wells isn't amongst ...Good point, infieldfly. <br /><br />Wells isn't amongst the Jays top ten in some rate stats, including OPS. He'll end up there in doubles, homers, hits, and probably RsBI, but counting stats are often more of a tribute to longevity rather than performance.<br /><br />We'll cop to that, for sure.Tao of Stiebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-43928060237931315872009-06-16T14:16:13.355-04:002009-06-16T14:16:13.355-04:00Records will fall (or second-place at least) with ...Records will fall (or second-place at least) with longevity, but just because VW may end up as the second-best Jay in certain statistical categories, I don't think that makes him the second-best Jay.<br /><br />To me, he really needs to pick up his game to earn the title.<br /><br />But now I'm trying to think of people I'd put ahead of him and I start doubting my choices — was Alomar here long enough? Does Molitor count? This is one tricky topic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com