tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post5468508134095171914..comments2023-12-15T07:22:02.492-05:00Comments on The Tao of Stieb: Let's Talk About JoBau: Where does he play?Tao of Stiebhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-15157366546308568702011-11-16T11:50:09.182-05:002011-11-16T11:50:09.182-05:00I read really much effective material here!I read really much effective material here!www.empresas3d.comhttp://www.empresas3d.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-44012972683227251642010-12-07T14:41:44.931-05:002010-12-07T14:41:44.931-05:00Hello
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I'...40+ Comments! Tao, how DJF-esque of you! <br /><br />I'm on board with the school bus of thought that says you find the best 3b or outfielder or 1b that you can get in the offseason and Bautista plays wherever you need to plug him in defensively next year. Hopefully The New Manager will have a modicum of sense when it comes to lineup construction and we can see him with a couple of high obp-type guys in front of hime and Snider not far behind with Wells moved into the 5, 6, 7 range.<br /><br />Hope!!!!1Chillnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-33321048028734627062010-09-22T11:01:20.741-04:002010-09-22T11:01:20.741-04:00On the other hand, you can't not reward player...On the other hand, you can't not reward players for hitting 50 HRs. I'm not saying you HAVE to sign him long-term for Wells money, but he needs to be treated well as a message to the other employees that hard work pays off in this organization.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-24831020553397116372010-09-21T19:44:40.218-04:002010-09-21T19:44:40.218-04:00Perpetually selling high is much better in theory ...Perpetually selling high is much better in theory than practice- works in the franchise mode in Madden because teams will give you a ton of picks, but the Jays can't delay the future forever.<br /><br />I think AA's smart enough to explore that option, and knows this season is an outlier for Jo-Bau. But I think most teams were thinking the same thing: Let's see him do it again.<br /><br />Jo-Bau should start at 3B for the Jays next year. Let's not jerk him around.DaveChttp://davechurch.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-62892785344826121672010-09-21T17:08:01.273-04:002010-09-21T17:08:01.273-04:00Oops, that should say "2009 was a career year...Oops, that should say "2009 was a career year", of course.Tyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11878921441543129555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-80014784723723927502010-09-21T17:07:15.146-04:002010-09-21T17:07:15.146-04:00The Hill situation is a lot different, though, giv...The Hill situation is a lot different, though, given that he had already signed the long-term contract and, after 2009, he appeared to be worth a lot more than he was getting paid. Certainly that would have increased his trade value too, but a young second baseman who just hit 36 home runs on a team-friendly contract that extends well into the years when that team plans on contending is the type of guy I'd assume the Jays would value very highly. I'm sure they did feel around for offers but it's hard to blame them for deciding that whatever was out there wasn't worth giving up Hill for, at least after last year.<br /><br />Obviously 2010 was a career year for Hill, but even with that in mind, it's a bit silly to automatically suggest that teams trade guys like that as soon as they have a breakout year.Tyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11878921441543129555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-65994434859601833132010-09-21T16:54:54.572-04:002010-09-21T16:54:54.572-04:00Ty,
The mention of George Bell was in reference t...Ty,<br /><br />The mention of George Bell was in reference to my comments in the previous blog. I know it's 20 years ago, but the article was about what Bautista and Bell have in common, and I thought the commonality between the two is probably that their big home run year will be the high points of their careers, and the point at which they have the most value.<br /><br />As for Hill I know implied that I was right by saying "am I wrong"? However, if you could go back in your hot tub time machine, would you not at least try and see what you could get in a deal for Aaron Hill after last season. Not to suggest that this year is representative of his future, just that if they did trade him last year it would have been the point at which they could have garnered the greatest return.Peter DeMarcohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13025682416268680287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-70474020958862095932010-09-21T16:00:19.090-04:002010-09-21T16:00:19.090-04:00I think I recall reading a newspaper article in wh...I think I recall reading a newspaper article in which he phrased it as something like "I guess I'd prefer RF as that's what I came up as", and I think the article noted that he shrugged while saying it. I don't think it's a big deal one way or another for him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-37708618435674818562010-09-21T15:51:21.515-04:002010-09-21T15:51:21.515-04:00^^^
He doesn't seem like the type of guy to ma...^^^<br />He doesn't seem like the type of guy to make those demands, but even if he were, he'd be hurting his own value by doing so since his versatility is one of his biggest strengths. And you're right, I don't think I've ever heard anything about him preferring one or the other... I'd be curious to find out which one he likes better. Either way I hope they keep him at 3B next year.Tyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11878921441543129555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-41906552709527004602010-09-21T14:11:22.991-04:002010-09-21T14:11:22.991-04:00Thanks for your help guys. Doesn't look like ...Thanks for your help guys. Doesn't look like position has played too much of a role in his performance. Interestingly I've never heard J-Bau comment on what position he prefers. I wonder if he is truly indifferent, or whether, along with the dollars, he will want his place in the field specified as well prior to signing an extension.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-56060040877963234712010-09-21T13:44:55.929-04:002010-09-21T13:44:55.929-04:00Anon, here are the numbers:
Bautista in RF (102 g...Anon, here are the numbers:<br /><br />Bautista in RF (102 games): .254/.382/.593, 32 HR, 74 RBI<br /><br />Bautista at 3B 47 games): .281/.383/.676, 17 HR, 40 RBI<br /><br />Tao, I'm not discounting Snider's prowess in the outfield at all. I just think he needs to be out there consistently so we can grasp some kind of idea of what to expect from him out there.<br /><br />He barely has over a season's worth of games in the OF (169), and I think the rule of thumb with UZR is you need a sample size of three season's worth to get a true idea of the range for an outfielder.<br /><br />I'm not hating on Travis, I just think it's too soon to judge whether this kid has range out there or not.Ian Hunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01074587524873409802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-58880372759406286862010-09-21T13:35:46.441-04:002010-09-21T13:35:46.441-04:00OPS+ as 3B in 2010 - 178 (in 188 plate appearances...OPS+ as 3B in 2010 - 178 (in 188 plate appearances.)<br /><br />OPS+ as RF in 2010 - 146 (in 432 PAs)<br /><br />And before anyone jumps down my throat...<br /><br />I think it is really difficult to come to much of a conclusion based on those numbers. Moreover, I wouldn't want to look at the career numbers (which favour RF over 3B, if you're curious) because I think that JoBau is a completely different machine since September 2009.Tao of Stiebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-87488351211810053112010-09-21T13:08:28.338-04:002010-09-21T13:08:28.338-04:00Another question to consider with J-Bau - is there...Another question to consider with J-Bau - is there a noticeable differential in his offensive numbers this year depending on what position he plays? I only bring it up since his ten home run stretch in Sept 2009 was achieved after he became the full-time RF, and it seems like his numbers really began to heat up this year when Snider got DL'ed and J-Bau was moved back out to RF (E5 was activated at that time). If anyone has the 2010 numbers on a positional basis it would be appreciated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-55341195913641641842010-09-21T13:08:19.021-04:002010-09-21T13:08:19.021-04:00Re: Bautista's position... they definitely max...Re: Bautista's position... they definitely maximize his value by using him at 3B, for all the reasons already mentioned, and - assuming he's about equal defensively at both positions - because Escobar does a lot more to make up for his range deficiencies at third than Vernon Wells does in the outfield. <br /><br />Really though, how many GM's have the luxury of knowing that they can plug their best hitter into one of four or five different positions next year, depending on who else they pick up? It gives AA a heck of a lot more options, and should make for a pretty interesting offseason.Tyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11878921441543129555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-46014177202789176872010-09-21T12:54:20.447-04:002010-09-21T12:54:20.447-04:00Peter, what makes you so sure you were right about...Peter, what makes you so sure you were right about Hill? Why should his disappointing 2010 season be more indicative of his long-term value than his excellent 2009?<br /><br />And George Bell, really? It's not exactly difficult to make that call with 20+ years of retrospect on your side.Tyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11878921441543129555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-92064079982484219082010-09-21T11:54:32.824-04:002010-09-21T11:54:32.824-04:00I don't like extending players after career ye...I don't like extending players after career years. If it must be done, I hope it's a 3/$40m deal with front loading. <br /><br />Othewise, I'd take my chances trying to extend him in July or trading him at the deadline.Gil Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01177204960812280259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-42370879669943380432010-09-21T11:06:25.263-04:002010-09-21T11:06:25.263-04:00Bautista should be offered a mid-range contract. I...Bautista should be offered a mid-range contract. I don't think it has to be as extreme as 6 years $66M or get rid of him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-31555129005828611762010-09-21T10:46:54.045-04:002010-09-21T10:46:54.045-04:00Also, it would be different if I believed that the...Also, it would be different if I believed that the Jays were a serious threat to win the division next season.Peter DeMarcohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13025682416268680287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-65568441019414171412010-09-21T10:42:46.481-04:002010-09-21T10:42:46.481-04:00It definitely appears that way, however in reality...It definitely appears that way, however in reality I believe you pay to keep the good ones. What I am against is overpaying to keep second tier to possibly mediocre players. This is how a team gets in trouble if they don't have an unlimited payroll. Teams like the Blue Jays can't afford to pay big salaries to guys like Lyle Overbay, Vernon Wells, Gil Meche, BJ Ryan, AJ Burnett, etc. Now a guy like Halladay, that's a different story, but unfortunately he indicated that he wouldn't stick around which forced the Jays hand.<br /><br />Also, was I wrong on Hill, George Bell, (and in the past Vernon Wells, Kelvim Escobar, AJ Burnett, etc.)Peter DeMarcohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13025682416268680287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-19559440064270343132010-09-21T10:29:59.107-04:002010-09-21T10:29:59.107-04:00no offense Peter D, but it seems your answer to ev...no offense Peter D, but it seems your answer to every player that has a big season is "Sell high!". Bautista, Hill, George Bell from the post below....c'mon, man.The Ackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12374953233006854310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-39972354808652013242010-09-21T08:46:56.652-04:002010-09-21T08:46:56.652-04:00I believe the two most likely outcomes if the Jays...I believe the two most likely outcomes if the Jays keep Bautista are the following:<br /><br />A) The Jays get two draft picks when he leaves as a free agent next season.<br /><br />B) The Jays give Bautista a big contract his production drops off, fielding continues to decline and fans turn on him like they did with Wells.Peter DeMarcohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13025682416268680287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-45272685543021534592010-09-21T08:43:48.493-04:002010-09-21T08:43:48.493-04:00I'm probably going to get killed for this but ...I'm probably going to get killed for this but what the hell, the likely best thing to do with Bautista is Sell High.Peter DeMarcohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13025682416268680287noreply@blogger.com