tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post3918452748806041050..comments2023-12-15T07:22:02.492-05:00Comments on The Tao of Stieb: We're all losers in the long, slow, sad battle of Canada's media companiesTao of Stiebhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-62791179461890718832009-04-27T09:33:00.000-04:002009-04-27T09:33:00.000-04:00Sorry man, but the minute you portrayed the Rogers...Sorry man, but the minute you portrayed the Rogers Empire as a "have not" versus the BCE Empire, you lost me.<br /><br />Rogers could bid up the rights as much as Bell can if you look at the big picture. The only reason Bell's doing it is to increase its revenues. Rogers could do the same thing for the same reason.<br /><br />In this economy, companies don't engage in pissing matches. They try to pare down to the bare essentials and proven winners. Bell has a business analyst on staff who happened to prove that the Jays series was worth the cost. Plain and simple. That's all that's going on here. If it happened to embarass Rogers in the process, that's just an added bonus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-64782770489563257882009-04-26T19:08:00.000-04:002009-04-26T19:08:00.000-04:00Just join the 21st century and get a freakin satel...Just join the 21st century and get a freakin satellite dish. Problem solved.rsmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02403873278908283583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-38724584721805612162009-04-26T00:21:00.000-04:002009-04-26T00:21:00.000-04:00Does anyone else think this may be connected to th...Does anyone else think this may be connected to the absence of RDS HD on Rogers Cable? It's another CTVglobemedia property.Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02727581363303632313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-87505002908239229022009-04-25T12:19:00.000-04:002009-04-25T12:19:00.000-04:00" CTVglobemedia is willing to engage in a battle o..." CTVglobemedia is willing to engage in a battle of attrition over this incredibly valuable property, and they have the resources and the will to go to the wall for this."<br /><br />Thats not true! If CTV has unlimtied funds then why did they cancel Canadian Idol and Corner Gas... Rogers knows this... TSN2 lost a ton of money on the Raptors, and they will continue to lose money by broadcasting Jays games...<br /><br />Will the station just go away? No... But it doesn't cost Rogers anything by waiting this out, because there are little options for most of Toronto; due to the fact that maybe half the city is in a situation where they can get a dish, and maybe 1/20th of the city actually is that passionate about the Raptors and the Jays...<br /><br />So TSN2, go for it....<br /><br />Your decision doesn't make me want to get a Bell dish... It makes me want to get an illegal American dish.. Which I probably will look into today on craigslist!Stevie H.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-59619715012021416672009-04-24T22:28:00.000-04:002009-04-24T22:28:00.000-04:00They had to do it with the Red Sox series, damn Ro...They had to do it with the Red Sox series, damn Rogers!VDUBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11910964652671685110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-76426748710784156532009-04-24T21:36:00.000-04:002009-04-24T21:36:00.000-04:00Why is Rogers not showing their own product on all...Why is Rogers not showing their own product on all their channels? Why do they purchase games to compete in the same timeslot as the Blue Jays? As I'm sitting here, I've got a freaking Yankees/Red Sox game on the central feed, making it the third time this week they've purposely not shown a Blue Jays game to Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta.<br /><br />Where's the logic there?<br /><br />And Stoeten, my 56" Samsung 1080p laughs at your jumpy feed on the computer monitor. No thanks!Peg Citynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-80949982333130913882009-04-24T20:51:00.000-04:002009-04-24T20:51:00.000-04:00@Stoeten
I posted something similar over at Ghost...@Stoeten<br /><br />I posted something similar over at Ghostrunner on First, and I am pretty sure it is the same thing as Scott and Zelkovich are saying, but I just thought I would say my $0.02<br /><br />I think that this particular move is part of some bigger play by Rogers as a whole to move to get TSN2 on to their cable division. <br /><br />Think about it... People at the top for Rogers must have been in negotiations with CTV for months to get TSN2 onto cable and by all accounts, it doesn't seem like it would happen any time soon. That said, what if Rogers offered them a series like Boston to sweeten the deal and try to drop the price to get TSN2 to the masses on Rogers Cable. <br /><br />Nothing is ever free, and by the looks of things, Rogers is (potentially) trying to make some headway to try and get us all TSN2. Having talked to numerous people who work for Cable, I know that money has been the biggest issue in the negotiations, and my guess is that by this point they are just trying to make some concessions in order to try and make sure that they can no longer have TSN2 held over their heads by everyone else out there.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02173021210207952575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-52540787074537359492009-04-24T16:56:00.000-04:002009-04-24T16:56:00.000-04:00Zelkovich is saying the same thing as Scott, I not...<A HREF="http://thestar.blogs.com/sportsmedia/2009/04/youve-heard-it-before-but-this-time-a-tsn2-deal-may-be-near.html" REL="nofollow">Zelkovich</A> is saying the same thing as Scott, I notice.Stoetenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11599405668168100016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-59909142544891937782009-04-24T16:53:00.000-04:002009-04-24T16:53:00.000-04:00Rogers applied for a baseball only channel over a ...Rogers applied for a baseball only channel over a year ago? Would anyone know the info on that, how that affects whats happening here, and when we could expect that, if ever?<br /><br />Thanks!Warren Demartininoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-17713408469676734822009-04-24T15:36:00.000-04:002009-04-24T15:36:00.000-04:00@Scott
Thinking you may be right, or at least the...@Scott<br /><br />Thinking you may be right, or at least the theory is sound. There is something that just seems really odd about this otherwise, with one part of Rogers undermining the other.<br /><br />Unless this is all part of a larger Blairsian conspiracy theory involving Beeston and MLSE and whoever else.<br /><br />@Stoeten<br /><br />Not saying that the Jays are acting on their own...but if you hold this up to the light in a certain way, it seems peculiar. <br /><br />We just keep thinking of Beeston making these claims that the team has to make a go of it independent of any promotional value they have for Rogers...I dunno. It just seems strange, but then again, it's just five games.Tao of Stiebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-54680285131716951102009-04-24T15:23:00.000-04:002009-04-24T15:23:00.000-04:00My theory on this, and it's just a theory, is that...My theory on this, and it's just a theory, is that a Rogers-TSN2 deal is probably imminent and this move is a sign of that. I could be wrong, though. I often am.<br /><br /><A HREF="http://www.raptorblog.com" REL="nofollow">Scott</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-37895205838774578182009-04-24T15:19:00.000-04:002009-04-24T15:19:00.000-04:00Tao really knows his shit when it comes to this. G...Tao really knows his shit when it comes to this. Great post. But wait... so you're saying this is the Jays acting alone against Rogers' interests?<br /><br />Also... come on people. Don't make me spell it out... but... a little Googling and you won't take long to find free sports streams.Stoetenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11599405668168100016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-41449255546864322372009-04-24T14:13:00.000-04:002009-04-24T14:13:00.000-04:00I'm not saying it was directly involved but that i...I'm not saying it was directly involved but that it's a preventative measure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-24490179088524059102009-04-24T13:33:00.000-04:002009-04-24T13:33:00.000-04:00@anonymous
I think you heard wrong. The Competiti...@anonymous<br /><br />I think you heard wrong. The Competition Bureau doesn't usually get involved with that sort of thing, unless one company is selling or acquiring another company. <br /><br />Besides, they sold 5 extra games on top of the 20 that had already gone to TSN. Somehow, we don't see those five games making that big a difference in the eyes of the Competition Bureau, nor would they care.Tao of Stiebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-29679653573405709592009-04-24T13:27:00.000-04:002009-04-24T13:27:00.000-04:00Yeah, we're on Rogers, and there are all sorts of ...Yeah, we're on Rogers, and there are all sorts of new surprises that we find added to our lineup. <br /><br />Like CBS College Sports, which we probably don't need, but what the hey. And they've been showing a ton of College Baseball, which is cool. PING!Tao of Stiebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-64136699577841977932009-04-24T13:16:00.000-04:002009-04-24T13:16:00.000-04:00Well colour me embarrassed... :)
Regardless of w...Well colour me embarrassed... :)<br /><br /><br />Regardless of whether or not TSN2 is tiered, at least they provided me with an option to get the service, and pay extra for it if I so desired (which I am not). <br /><br />The tier TSN2 is included in was something I was already paying for (Includes things like Raptors TV, ESPN Classic, The various Sportsnet "Regional Channels", etc), and there was no additional fee for tacking TSN2 on.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07250447657042533362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-39348098558089748682009-04-24T12:09:00.000-04:002009-04-24T12:09:00.000-04:00The blue jays are force to sell some games to ctvg...The blue jays are force to sell some games to ctvglobemedia in order to avoid issues with the competition bureau. I don't know the specific details but that's what I heard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-11677113173330566892009-04-24T12:01:00.000-04:002009-04-24T12:01:00.000-04:00@Kevin
The TSN2 games are in Boston. (May 19, 20,...@Kevin<br /><br />The TSN2 games are in Boston. (May 19, 20, 21).<br /><br />And Cogeco put TSN2 on your dial presumably because it is part of a tier, not out of the goodness of their hearts.Tao of Stiebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-24276887163085069532009-04-24T11:55:00.000-04:002009-04-24T11:55:00.000-04:00It's no coincidence that Rogers' is the only provi...It's no coincidence that Rogers' is the only provider to not carry TSN2, and they are TSN's largest competitor. <br /><br />What's funny is that my provider (Cogeco) put TSN2 on my list of channels at no additional cost.<br /><br />The other solution for those in TO with Rogers:<br /><br />GO TO THE GAME.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07250447657042533362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-47509026518786102862009-04-24T11:23:00.000-04:002009-04-24T11:23:00.000-04:00Once the HNIC theme moved to TSN, it lost almost a...Once the HNIC theme moved to TSN, it lost almost all of its nostalgic power for me. It was a relic of an earlier age of broadcasting and lost all its power in the presence of James Duthie.Darren Priesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04577092117174508443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-8957573346495376212009-04-24T11:15:00.000-04:002009-04-24T11:15:00.000-04:00I will have to see if I can figure a way to proxy ...I will have to see if I can figure a way to proxy through to MLB.TV.Izmir the Astarachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01976063447836099641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-52876742978300735982009-04-24T11:10:00.000-04:002009-04-24T11:10:00.000-04:00Yeah, the radio is always an option. We listen to ...Yeah, the radio is always an option. We listen to it most nights, with the game on the tube in case something big happens. Looks like we'll just have to use our imagination for the BoSox series.Tao of Stiebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-83568239590772616032009-04-24T11:05:00.000-04:002009-04-24T11:05:00.000-04:00It's bullshit, plain and simple, but much like you...It's bullshit, plain and simple, but much like you say Tao, I just don't have the energy to go ape shit about it.<br /><br />I'm more than content to grab a beer, turn on the radio, and have Jerry Howarth, Alan Ashby and Mike Wilner whisper sweet nothings into my ears as the Jays demolish those mother fuckers from Boston.Navin Vaswani (@eyebleaf)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08445618400360263938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-36693638160686178242009-04-24T11:03:00.000-04:002009-04-24T11:03:00.000-04:00A pox on both their houses.A pox on both their houses.Tao of Stiebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-78926336605716222242009-04-24T10:49:00.000-04:002009-04-24T10:49:00.000-04:00Fuck off Sti........... RogersFuck off Sti........... RogersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com