tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post3798080704009985374..comments2023-12-15T07:22:02.492-05:00Comments on The Tao of Stieb: Anywhere but the AngelsTao of Stiebhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-67463371476951850022009-12-13T12:09:11.532-05:002009-12-13T12:09:11.532-05:00I've got to admit my dislike for Saunders but ...I've got to admit my dislike for Saunders but take this into consideration... <br />What if Aybar's offensive stats weren't a fluke? He's young and he could just be growing into a all-star. <br />Now that presents the question, would you rather have A) A platoon of two veteran shortstops who have never hit or B) A potential young budding all-star who can hit and would be an excellent lead-off man which we are in dire need of.<br />I think a trade with the Angels should start with Aybar and then be built up with some farm pieces.<br />IMO anywaysAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-55353195847392483952009-12-13T10:04:13.018-05:002009-12-13T10:04:13.018-05:00So, Chavez was not tendered a contract. We have z...So, Chavez was not tendered a contract. We have zero catchers at the moment. Could be that the Jays are going to offer Chavez a minor league deal or that the Blue Jays / Angels are reaaaal far down the road & Napoli is headed here. Maybe that rumored Accardo / Doumit thing happens. <br /><br />Hmm..ok. I've contributed nothing! <br />But yeah. Zero catchers right now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-10200675976089178442009-12-13T09:38:15.047-05:002009-12-13T09:38:15.047-05:00Granderson's a glorified platoon player.....wh...Granderson's a glorified platoon player.....who'll put up Ruthian power stats in that joke of a stadium in the Bronx.Gil Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01177204960812280259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-84522881670939179652009-12-13T08:19:28.771-05:002009-12-13T08:19:28.771-05:00I want Granderson in a fucking Jays uni!!!!
Doc &...I want Granderson in a fucking Jays uni!!!!<br /><br />Doc & Wells<br />for<br />Granderson & fat fuck JobaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-45122564803116529382009-12-12T14:25:17.922-05:002009-12-12T14:25:17.922-05:00Mattt, If the Phils get doc in a 7 game series Lee...Mattt, If the Phils get doc in a 7 game series Lee and doc will pitch 5 times. You can guess how many of those games they can win.<br /><br />Gil, The sox might have a need BUT don't want to pay the price for him. Theo, Henry and Lucchino are the type of people that if a Lambroghini was at 200,000 dollars they'd want it at 199,999.99 to save the penny!;) The Red Sox could get Doc over the Yanks with their prospects (which don't suck as much).Bruno Van Rottweillernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-21278028897679855832009-12-12T14:04:47.792-05:002009-12-12T14:04:47.792-05:00I think the Sox have a big need for Halladay too. ...I think the Sox have a big need for Halladay too. Wtihout him, they might not make the playoffs. With him, they could take out the Yanks in the ALCS.<br /><br />Yankees will likely have the offence to carry them to the Pennant, but I'll take Doc-Lester-Beckett over CC-AJ-Petitte in a seven game series.Gil Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01177204960812280259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-91230060831319773882009-12-12T14:02:06.142-05:002009-12-12T14:02:06.142-05:00Montero's as fat as Snider.Montero's as fat as Snider.Gil Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01177204960812280259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-81487657366307992612009-12-12T14:00:38.939-05:002009-12-12T14:00:38.939-05:00The Phillies have the greatest need for Halladay s...The Phillies have the greatest need for Halladay so it makes sense as these negotiations continue that their package will likely end up the best. By greatest need I mean he is likely the only piece they need to get another championship. Hopefully the AL East rivals will force them to up their package.Mattthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16945030075122490090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-19562641752977083992009-12-12T13:16:44.140-05:002009-12-12T13:16:44.140-05:00Ack, you'd really want the best package from t...Ack, you'd really want the best package from the Yankees or the Red sox. I live in the NYC area and the Yankee fans are gloating at getting Halladay..you're sure about trading in the division? Montero is fat and will be a DH not a catcher, they fucked Joba up when they dicked him around from starter to closer to starter, and the dickhead Yankee fans have been throwing in Class A chump Ramiro Pena as shortstop,too! And Hughes has excelled only as a reliever. II'd rather take the Angels package , I don't want to see him pitch for the two evil empires. The yankee haul is not much better than the angel one when you compare stats. I live in the NYC area, so I don't need to hear anymore Yankee triumphalism from these frontrunning Yankee fans.<br /><br />The Phillies? Amaro is dying to get Doc. I think that Jays can get Drabek AND should. If they want to extend him, that's the price they'll pay. I like Happ BUT just not in the AL East.Bruno Van Rottweillernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-53339564133363932802009-12-12T12:35:29.776-05:002009-12-12T12:35:29.776-05:00Apparently the Jays want Trevor Reckling if they&#...Apparently the Jays want Trevor Reckling if they're going to trade Doc to the Angels. I'd like this a LOT more than any trade involving Joe Saunders.<br /><br />http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/12/roy-halladay-rumors-saturday.html<br /><br />The Phillies stuff in that article, though it's clearly been pulled directly out of Kenny's ass, would also be really interesting if it ends up being true.Tyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11878921441543129555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-70743884869367728522009-12-12T10:07:00.047-05:002009-12-12T10:07:00.047-05:00Hmmm...apparently the Angels are hosting the all-s...Hmmm...apparently the Angels are hosting the all-star game this year. I'm sure they'd love to make a huge splash at that. A new franchise type player would do the trick.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-5083342343793062692009-12-12T09:53:04.110-05:002009-12-12T09:53:04.110-05:00If we're desperate for a no-slug, all-speed-an...If we're desperate for a no-slug, all-speed-and-defence CF, I'd like to wait a year to see how Mastroianni develops. <br /><br />I agree that Napoli and Aybar have some appeal, but there has to be prospects. The Angels system has some interesting pieces, though I'm not sure they're all eligible for trades yet (a lot were drafted this year).Gil Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01177204960812280259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-19841382230480233832009-12-12T09:34:19.049-05:002009-12-12T09:34:19.049-05:00@ first anon - Bourjos DOB March 87, Taylor Dec 85...@ first anon - Bourjos DOB March 87, Taylor Dec 85...hardly 3 full years. Besides, we'd still be getting essentially all of Taylor's prime, and he's closer to being ready (regardless of position - I'd rather trade for talent than position).The Ackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12374953233006854310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-29025783529462924392009-12-12T08:17:58.884-05:002009-12-12T08:17:58.884-05:00Entirely Agree, right on.
I've always said th...Entirely Agree, right on.<br /><br />I've always said the Jays would be better to go for Trevor Reckling and 2 other SP prospects like Manuarys Correa and another instead of Suanders for 4 reasons:<br /><br />1. Ceiling<br />2. Saunders will hate playing for TO<br />3. Time of control over the players<br />4. Saunders will be a FA in 3 yearsAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10997423481647281784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-67912153915640236482009-12-12T02:58:25.702-05:002009-12-12T02:58:25.702-05:00I'm not a fan of the Angels package for many o...I'm not a fan of the Angels package for many of the reasons you just listed, but also....we just spent money on two shortstops. Aybar is better than A-Gon and Johnny Mac, no question, but then what we do with those two guys?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-64167535532472869192009-12-12T01:35:58.891-05:002009-12-12T01:35:58.891-05:00I'm squarely on the "fuck Joe Saunders wi...I'm squarely on the "fuck Joe Saunders with a branding iron and then pour vinegar on the burns" bandwagon. If Halladay really HAS to get traded, I'd like to see Anthopoulos swing a 3-way trade with the Angels and Phillies where the Jays get Naples, Domaeiou-and-sometimes-ynic Brown, and the Phillie Phanatic.Peter Gentlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04544843679235051284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-84563669562050121352009-12-12T01:34:48.876-05:002009-12-12T01:34:48.876-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Peter Gentlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04544843679235051284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-2064641305321781502009-12-12T00:51:46.189-05:002009-12-12T00:51:46.189-05:00Yep, what we were calling a shitastic package in J...Yep, what we were calling a shitastic package in July from the Phillies is now looking golden compared to the Angels. I don't care if Saunders "wins", it's just baffling that he's considered a serious part of this package, and I don't even like Happ either.<br /><br />I say let's wait the Phillies out and make them offer more than they want, because we know they really want him despite their public ambiguity. Unless they sign Lackey or somehow trade for King Felix or Josh Johnson, there isn't one available starter that would come close to a Doc trade. With Hamels struggling, Pedro being an FA, and Moyer a couple years from getting a birthday shout out from Jaime Campbell, they really need Doc to compete with that Braves rotation and guarantee a return to the playoffs.<br /><br />I'd ask for Drabek, Brown, and D'Arnaud.SPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15861389212599241745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-38667113856824040642009-12-11T23:47:40.774-05:002009-12-11T23:47:40.774-05:00I echo the Tao's statements.
"Fuck the m...I echo the Tao's statements.<br /><br />"Fuck the market." - The calling card of 2009.Navin Vaswani (@eyebleaf)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08445618400360263938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-86665042904769472752009-12-11T23:21:16.535-05:002009-12-11T23:21:16.535-05:00I am with you on this 100%. I absolutely do not w...I am with you on this 100%. I absolutely do not want anything to do with the rumoured Halo package. I kind of...well no - I completely hate it. <br /><br />I hate it because it just makes no sense to target these arbitration eligible players - guys who can leave after 2/3 years. How does that in any way resemble what AA has been saying publically...that he seeks young controllable players - Bourjos is a player like that but Saunders & Aybar (whom I like), make little sense & it's infuriating. We need youth to go w/ the Sniders & Cecils. We need to trade for guys who are going to be here a good long while.<br /><br />BTW, there are a couple of Angels blogs reporting that Gammons (i know) has said the Jays turned it down & are asking for 5 players. <br /><br />Also, I'm really concerned about Beeston meddling here. I have this fear that he's gonna see the Halos offer & insist on something like that due to the Major League Player content. 'Oh I see there's a big league catcher & shortstop...we need those'. Prospects / building blocks be damned. <br /><br />At any rate, I hope we get something down w/ the Phils. I like those young outfielders a fair bit & as much as I'm cynical about Happ - I prefer him to Saunders.Dane lorgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-1890928987719725052009-12-11T23:16:33.784-05:002009-12-11T23:16:33.784-05:00Ack, I'm also on the hate train for Joe Saunde...Ack, I'm also on the hate train for Joe Saunders. He has an impressive win/loss total, but that just doesn't cut it. I'd rather have Napoli/Aybar - but I don't think the Angels would be willing to part with both guys.Ian Hunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01074587524873409802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-25194511114668812712009-12-11T23:12:57.127-05:002009-12-11T23:12:57.127-05:00I agree that I like the Phillies package better, h...I agree that I like the Phillies package better, hate Saunders as well, but it's worth mentioning that Bourjos is three full years younger than Taylor and can play a great CF.<br /><br />You can't just leave that out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com