Comments on The Tao of Stieb: Pining for Manny Acta

I don't even like hockey fuckstick. Fuckball or f...

2009-10-23T23:53:32.808-04:00

I don't even like hockey fuckstick.

Fuckball or fuckbat would've been better in this situation. Fuckstick indicates your love of puck.

"Shouldn't the new president have some input on th...

2009-10-22T13:24:16.769-04:00

"Shouldn't the new president have some input on the manager?"

Shouldn't the new president have some input on the GENERAL MANAGER???

This whole thing stinks of bullshit. Beeston is probably gonna be the President. Viner even made it sound like that in the interview.

Turtled could also mean they busied themselves wit...

2009-10-22T13:22:56.266-04:00

Turtled could also mean they busied themselves with a box of delicious Turtles candy instead of addressing the question.

"Turtled". Hmm. So nice of you to bring your brain...

2009-10-22T09:02:47.016-04:00

"Turtled". Hmm. So nice of you to bring your brain-dead hockey mentality to the discussion."

I don't even like hockey fuckstick.

¿Por qué es tu cabeza en el culo? I am a huge fan...

2009-10-22T01:42:42.357-04:00

¿Por qué es tu cabeza en el culo?

I am a huge fan of knowing a sentence is a question from the start, rather than finding out at the end. Changes everything.

furious

With regards to the "mutiny" getting Cito fired, I...

2009-10-21T23:11:13.206-04:00

With regards to the "mutiny" getting Cito fired, I don't think we'll ever see Cito 'fired' from the Jays. If anything, they'll let the dust settle from that whole brew-ha-ha and reassign him into the front office to some sort of public relations position, doing fundraising and the sort.

I'm really interested to see what AA does with this squad this summer. It'll be exciting to at least have a direction. Here's to direction!

Shouldn't the new president have some input on the...

2009-10-21T21:01:01.025-04:00

Shouldn't the new president have some input on the manager?

Not that Acta shouldn't be considered- he didn't have much to work with in Washington, and the statheads here would certainly appreciate his approach to the game- but looking at managerial candidates with Cito still here AND an interim president seems a little premature.

The stated reason for the players "turtling out" w...

2009-10-21T17:49:07.246-04:00

The stated reason for the players "turtling out" was because they liked what they heard when Paul Beeston talked to them about the situation. Several of them said that, the same ones who had been saying the clubhouse was in terrible shape just days before.

Now, to me, that suggests that he probably said something along the lines of, "Hey guys, we're going to get rid of Cito eventually but we can't do it right now because it would look really bad now that this story has come out."

It makes sense to me that they'd wait until the new president comes in before they make a managerial change. Just do it all at once.

I thought Doc's non-denial was especially damning....

2009-10-21T16:55:00.669-04:00

I thought Doc's non-denial was especially damning. It reminded me of when I was a kid and I'd done something that was likely to result in getting "the belt" from my father.

I'd say, "Dad, am I in trouble."

He'd say, "We'll talk about it when we get home."

Yep, it was then I knew I was fucked. (Not literally.)

@Tallet's Cock Cheese "Turtled". Hmm. So nice of ...

2009-10-21T16:26:21.580-04:00

@Tallet's Cock Cheese

"Turtled". Hmm. So nice of you to bring your brain-dead hockey mentality to the discussion.

Because what the players should have done is go public and rip Cito on the record...that would have demonstrated their heart and grit.

Also, I think Doc is waiting until the fourth game...

2009-10-21T15:39:07.281-04:00

Also, I think Doc is waiting until the fourth game of the WS to announce his retirement...from the Blue Jays.

Barry Sanders told me.

If nearly record low attendance doesn't constitute...

2009-10-21T15:37:35.797-04:00

If nearly record low attendance doesn't constitute a fan revolt, I don't know what would.

This isn't the Manny I had in mind, but I'm on board with whatever Tao and Ack want.

ACTA! ACTRA! er ACTA!

I agree Cito needs to go but to do it the day afte...

2009-10-21T14:03:59.752-04:00

I agree Cito needs to go but to do it the day after the story of a player revolt comes out looks bad especially to prospective managers.

Do it in January when all the crap has completely died down.

It is also interesting that the players completely turtled when it came time to grieve their problems in public.

I wanna hump history - that sounds awesome!

2009-10-21T13:58:41.779-04:00

I wanna hump history - that sounds awesome!

I still maintain that there's nothing wrong with F...

2009-10-21T13:47:31.008-04:00

I still maintain that there's nothing wrong with Flashback Fridays. I disagree vehemently that putting on throwback jerseys and bringing the boys together for a reunion when they're still able to get around a golf course is "defiling it forever." History, a proud one, is meant to be celebrated/repeatedly humped.

I prefer Paddy O'Cripply cakes. "They don't take ...

2009-10-21T13:14:31.407-04:00

I prefer Paddy O'Cripply cakes. "They don't take kindly to queers..."

The fans may love Cito but that doesn't make it right. The corpse of 92-93 is over tenderized from the repeat humpings. They can't keep defiling it forever. Turn The Page Tuesdays!

It makes no sense at all to bring Cito back next y...

2009-10-21T12:48:53.974-04:00

It makes no sense at all to bring Cito back next year. All the "clubhouse issues" aside ... Cito said himself next year is his last year anyway, so like The Ack suggested why not just fast forward and send Cito packing so we can move on with this franchise?

New president, new GM, and same coach? It just doesn't sit right ...

"If a player revolt isn't enough to get Cito turfe...

2009-10-21T12:37:29.088-04:00

"If a player revolt isn't enough to get Cito turfed, how about a fan revolt?"

Good message to send to prospective managers. The inmates are running the asylum.

Fan revolt? Cito is more beloved by the public than any player on the Jays team (even Roy).

Another brilliant post by the Tao of Ohka, Thomson and Zambrano.

JET!!

2009-10-21T12:33:33.372-04:00

JET!!

Dunno if the Acta story has much legs - it may jus...

2009-10-21T12:14:54.180-04:00

Dunno if the Acta story has much legs - it may just be Blair pulling something out of his ass (in salute to nowhere man Alex Rios) - just for the sake of generating copy. Seems Acta may also be wanted by the Astros, so it may be more of an exercise in Blair projecting a coaching change to coincide with the saccharine goo that the press have been applying to wunderkind GM AA. I get that some members of the fourth estate in Toronto are still tending to their sparklers in keeping the AA ' congrats on new gm Fudgy the Whale cake' somewhat festive, but I think any coaching change, if any, will be made only once a new President is installed. Basically, it's really just lazy connect-the-dots-with former expos speculation.

Didn't it, though? That's another thing....if we ...

2009-10-21T12:13:05.870-04:00

Didn't it, though?

That's another thing....if we were all going fucking nuts watching Millar hit cleanup, can you imagine Ricciardi's thoughts? JP wasn't even running this team in 2009.

@ The Ack: The whole lame-duck GM worked out well....

2009-10-21T12:10:33.375-04:00

@ The Ack: The whole lame-duck GM worked out well.

I understand (sorta') waiting out the World Series...

2009-10-21T12:07:10.366-04:00

I understand (sorta') waiting out the World Series, or whenever THE FUCK Beeston actually completes the job he was hired to do in naming his replacement....but if Beeston could turf JP & promote AA before naming a Prez, then AA should be given authority to make decisions in the same manner.

Unless, of course, part of the job description was that even discussing's status Cito was off-limits.

In which case, FML indeed.

(I've repeated this over and over and over again.....but what in the fuck is the point of Cito even coming back if he's more or less announced he isn't interested beyond 2010? Just turn the fucking page already, then. ESPECIALLY if we're looking at a rebuild. Dude is like a lame-duck manager.)

So Cito will be fired after the World Series?

2009-10-21T12:05:58.248-04:00

So Cito will be fired after the World Series?

If you want to fool yourself into feeling better a...

2009-10-21T11:56:30.638-04:00

If you want to fool yourself into feeling better about stuff, remember that AA won't be making moves until after the World Series, so it is likely that there are things happening that aren't being reported on as of yet.

Hopefully, that's what is happening here.