Comments on The Tao of Stieb: Trouble in the clubhouse, Pt II: The Case against ...

Cito is just old. That's all. Nothing more, nothin...

2009-10-06T12:47:00.174-04:00

Cito is just old. That's all. Nothing more, nothing less. He's old, he can't relate to today's guys like he did a decade ago and so, it's time for him to go.

Cito hasnt been let go yet because thats the job o...

2009-10-05T11:16:04.430-04:00

Cito hasnt been let go yet because thats the job on the new GM. Its a common practice.

Years later, Shawn Green would say: 'Now I underst...

2009-10-05T09:23:54.592-04:00

Years later, Shawn Green would say: 'Now I understand what you were trying to do,' and Alex Gonzalez came up a few years ago saying: 'I know now what you were talking about.

HAHAHAHAHAH

Paul Beeston keeps saying that he'll announce the ...

2009-10-04T23:39:43.906-04:00

Paul Beeston keeps saying that he'll announce the new Prez "this month or next month". Anyone else think that the new prez works for a team currently in the playoffs?

forgot Millar.

2009-10-04T17:28:21.183-04:00

forgot Millar.

Use that line in person sometime, Jon, you sound l...

2009-10-04T12:10:06.924-04:00

Use that line in person sometime, Jon, you sound like you need the beating that would surely follow.

Sorry if that is excessively bitchy, but can this ...

2009-10-03T20:48:41.366-04:00

Sorry if that is excessively bitchy, but can this season just be over already????

Cito didn't say anything about BJ that wasn't true...

2009-10-03T20:43:26.670-04:00

Cito didn't say anything about BJ that wasn't true. I don't really consider his comments ripping and if the pen had a problem with that, they should probably get over it.

Travis Snider told Jamie Campbell that he doesn't like being coached in the middle of the game. That is perhaps what Cito is referring to. And frankly, if Travis doesn't like being coached mid-game, he should hit the ball in the game. He's a rookie. He's 21. Do what you're told.

I'm not completely on Cito's side, but it's not like these boys have exactly brought it or have much of a leg to stand on.

So, in the role of devil's advocate, what have the...

2009-10-03T20:10:07.183-04:00

So, in the role of devil's advocate, what have they won with Butterfield and Arnsberg as part of the organization? Nothing. Noth that I diasagree with giving them a shot, but, I just wanted to point out that these fellows have been around forever, too.

Cito cant identify with the players of today and t...

2009-10-03T17:22:27.419-04:00

Cito cant identify with the players of today and the game has passed him by. Plus he is way to stubborn to change. Sure expectations got out of line with that great start, but with 4 rookie starters we should have known better. Arnsberg for manager.

Like I said, Tao of Stieb is the pulse of the Jays...

2009-10-03T17:00:08.341-04:00

Like I said, Tao of Stieb is the pulse of the Jays fan. Nails post, Ack.

Unless the entire roster is turned over this off-season, Cito is gone. He's probably gone regardless. As long as Butters and Arnsberg are still around, I'm happy.

Your case against seems much stranger than your ca...

2009-10-03T16:49:46.233-04:00

Your case against seems much stranger than your case for. I wonder who's out there in terms of managers. Ernie Whitt? I kid, I kid.

Maybe there's a young guy who is well versed in sabermetrics and maybe this young guy's father is a baseball figure (like the football equivalent of Lane and Monty Kiffen). That might work. Sorry, the guy I described is totally hypothetical; I don't have a candidate in mind.

I don't see how JP's assistant is the answer though.

If Cito goes, I've got a feeling he's going to dis...

2009-10-03T15:50:15.182-04:00

If Cito goes, I've got a feeling he's going to dish some dirt as he's pushed out the door. He ripped into Rios and BJ Ryan after they were dropped from the team, so I'm sure he'll have things to say about Wells, Downs, Snider, etc if and when he's fired.

As a fan of gossip, I'm titillated!

Well done on both counts. There's no way Cito com...

2009-10-03T15:00:02.847-04:00

Well done on both counts.

There's no way Cito comes back after this, is there? He's been burning his bridges quite nicely with his backhanded jabs at the players, and refusal to compromise or change.

I think that we will all eventually remember him as the manager of the World Series teams when the memory of this fades... but at the moment, he's obviously the wrong guy for this team.

Meh, more axe grinding speculation.

2009-10-03T14:51:49.454-04:00

Meh, more axe grinding speculation.