tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post129678163068260925..comments2023-12-15T07:22:02.492-05:00Comments on The Tao of Stieb: The Evolution of RickyTao of Stiebhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-55162157060928920712010-05-17T14:34:55.071-04:002010-05-17T14:34:55.071-04:00I never understood why only the Jays got the criti...I never understood why only the Jays got the criticism for passing on Tulo. The Mariners drafted Jeff Clement and who was their SS? The Royals drafted Alex Gordon and who was their SS? The Jays had drafted Russ Adams and Aaron Hill already and still had legit hope that one of them would stick there. Actually, I do know why. A prominent national baseball writer who used to work for JP liked to bring up how much he wanted Tulo. Then there's that Dickard Griffin guy.SPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15861389212599241745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-41568299645722464902010-05-17T13:56:24.368-04:002010-05-17T13:56:24.368-04:00http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2010/5/17/1475369...http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2010/5/17/1475369/dont-look-now-but-toronto-mightSPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15861389212599241745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-76428332243603795662010-05-17T09:01:47.616-04:002010-05-17T09:01:47.616-04:00I was in Chicago a couple weeks ago and I saw JP t...I was in Chicago a couple weeks ago and I saw JP touting his Romero pick on Baseball Tonight. <br /><br />He said it was hard to bring free agents to Toronto so he knew he had to load up on pitching. He said he loved Tulo but he knew a left handed SP was more valuable.Christophernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-36873130120909654022010-05-17T02:25:10.070-04:002010-05-17T02:25:10.070-04:00Romero has mentioned Halladay's influence and ...Romero has mentioned Halladay's influence and mentoring during his development as a pitcher.You can definitely see his focus and competitive nature when on the mound.The final lesson to be learned when graduating to the show?No longer just a thrower with good stuff but a major league pitcher.radarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11317316844349285948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-16024378465382725222010-05-16T23:36:53.238-04:002010-05-16T23:36:53.238-04:00Anyway, the Jays will have 2 getaway games in 3 da...Anyway, the Jays will have 2 getaway games in 3 days and 3 in 6 days. This is probably where things are going to go off the tracks (if this isn't the team's "true talent" level.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-1254856922221838822010-05-16T23:07:33.798-04:002010-05-16T23:07:33.798-04:00I've always thought the '09 spring trainin...I've always thought the '09 spring training story was a bunch of hooey. I hoped for the sake of the organization it wasn't true anyway. I can't believe you draft a kid sixth and the big league pitching coach waits like four spring trainings before taking any interest. You would think the club would do anything within reason to care and nurture the kid.<br /><br />Only real boneheads would compare Romero and Tulowitzki. One's an apple, the other an orange. How does Romero hold up against other pitchers? That might be the real test. It's early, but who has been better than Romero in the first round? Garza and Pelfrey have more wins, but both are sub .500. If the organization decided it needed pitching with the 6th pick in '05, it obviously could have done a lot worse.Leaker19https://www.blogger.com/profile/00160153956676689094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-80402801082369525182010-05-16T19:50:54.964-04:002010-05-16T19:50:54.964-04:00Yeah, so you left out, sorta, a 5 RBI night for Ba...Yeah, so you left out, sorta, a 5 RBI night for Bautista. A 6 run lead has to help out a pitcher who is going for the CGSO. <br /><br />Not to take away from Romero, it was great to have that happen shortly after we were told that the return of our usual suspect for the CGSO would not be here after all.<br /><br />That said, watching this team, whether it is Marcum, Morrow, Romero or Eveland starting, it would seem that the departure of #32 has somehow improved this team. Almost as if knowing that they wont be bailed out by a master, they play hard every game.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-9742341484315864372010-05-16T18:57:28.289-04:002010-05-16T18:57:28.289-04:00I don't think enormous testicles would get in ...I don't think enormous testicles would get in the way when pitching from the stretch. From the windup though...Mattthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16945030075122490090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-50551958969060788872010-05-16T18:27:36.284-04:002010-05-16T18:27:36.284-04:00I'm delighted for Ricky.
Redemption - what he...I'm delighted for Ricky.<br /><br />Redemption - what he's doing now. Revenge - when he strikes out Troy four times in inter-league play and on Troy's fifth at bat beans the ba*tard.<br /><br />The way he's struggled so mightily - like Roy did - fought through it, kept his personal pride and dignity and then - Roy like - risen, phoenix like from the scrap heap to be - Roy like - a star.<br /><br />Priceless.Mylegacyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11532592953744479060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-76819689826451351342010-05-16T13:34:08.572-04:002010-05-16T13:34:08.572-04:00Not only has it lost it's bite, it's prett...Not only has it lost it's bite, it's pretty pointless. JP is gone and none of you are going to be GMs or even scouts -- ever!<br /><br />I, only the other hand, am the best Cher impersonator in my county.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-49552517280052950832010-05-16T12:20:50.835-04:002010-05-16T12:20:50.835-04:00"You knew, being the astute observer of talen...<i>"You knew, being the astute observer of talent that you are, that one day Romero would be better?"<br /></i><br />Quite the contrary - nobody knew. That's the point.<br /><br />Or, by extension - you knew, based on 2 to 3 years of observation, that Romero would never make it?<br /><br />I don't really get the bile - my observation is that both are great players, and perhaps measuring Romero against the "Tulo standard" has now lost some of it's bite.The Ackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12374953233006854310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-9416671290139770292010-05-16T12:10:57.336-04:002010-05-16T12:10:57.336-04:00Anonymous, you realize that Tulo has only had 2 so...Anonymous, you realize that Tulo has only had 2 solid seasons as well? <br /><br />People criticizing the drafting of Romero were always just revisionist JP haters looking for another excuse to rag on the guy for other failures. We had Hill developing in the system who wes still projected to be an everyday SS, it would have been wholly irresponsible to waste such a high pick on a redundant position player. <br /><br />Pelfrey, Bruce, Ellsbury, Garza, Rasmus and Bucholz are among the list of players who like Tulo were drafted after Romero. They all made major league contributions before Romero so where was all the outrage over not taking them? Most people banging the Tulo drum are irrational haters that don't understand the nature of the MLB draft relative to other sports. This situation is not unique, there isn't a single draft year where you couldn't go back and manufacture an argument for having skipped one player for another that turned out more valuable. If Russ Adams (a touted and sought after pick if you've read Moneyball) hadn't flamed out so spectacularly then this would never have been an issue.Jimmynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-52880963458406085692010-05-16T11:45:22.895-04:002010-05-16T11:45:22.895-04:00No one has any right to mock those fans at all, ot...No one has any right to mock those fans at all, other than perhaps JP himself. Are you saying that when he was struggling in the minors and Tulowitski was doing well in the bigs you defending the selection? You knew, being the astute observer of talent that you are, that one day Romero would be better?<br /><br />Fans' reactions to that situation were based on 2 to 3 years of observation. Yours, on the other hand, are based on one decent year and a hot start to the second. <br /><br />Your analysis is even more knee-jerk than theirs (ours, I suppose). This should be re-visited in August at the earliest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-85219277354993805922010-05-16T10:55:56.843-04:002010-05-16T10:55:56.843-04:00Just checked, but I can't find that confidence...Just checked, but I can't find that confidence meter on Fangraphs. Every once in a while, it's nice to get a reminder that statistical evaluation in baseball is not a finished product.Gil Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01177204960812280259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-31349688898928867792010-05-16T04:08:56.212-04:002010-05-16T04:08:56.212-04:00Clearly he's an extreme talent, but I think Ro...Clearly he's an extreme talent, but I think Romero's success is a perfect example of the mental side of athletics. Having confidence in yourself is a quality that should never be understated.Brad Fullmer Fanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16725573076197297449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-83038060297169625252010-05-16T00:38:47.847-04:002010-05-16T00:38:47.847-04:00As I recall, one of the qualities that was most pr...As I recall, one of the qualities that was most praised when Romero was in college and being evaluated for the draft was his competitivness and make-up - and there were allusions to his minor league struggles at least partly involving a crisis of confidence.<br /><br />So in a lot of ways, this persona isn't a new thing for him - assuming all those comments were true - but more a reclaiming of a former skill.The Southpawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12978086362601077757noreply@blogger.com