tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post1101215212656343981..comments2023-12-15T07:22:02.492-05:00Comments on The Tao of Stieb: Clip and save: A reusable post on the bullpenTao of Stiebhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-52663931317467045602010-06-23T17:23:20.539-04:002010-06-23T17:23:20.539-04:00Oh, and sorry for referring to the team as "u...Oh, and sorry for referring to the team as "us." I realize that offends certain quarters of Jays followers -- both professional and amateur.Darren Priesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04577092117174508443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-64782834893327445942010-06-23T16:47:04.722-04:002010-06-23T16:47:04.722-04:00The Blue Jays love Johnny Mac with such an irratio...The Blue Jays love Johnny Mac with such an irrational passion that I doubt they'd deal him for Pujols, Hanley or Strasburg.Tao of Stiebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-19160642313398502242010-06-23T16:20:41.236-04:002010-06-23T16:20:41.236-04:00From the Bleacher Report:
Red Sox.
Needs: Backup ...From the Bleacher Report:<br /><br />Red Sox.<br />Needs: Backup Short Stop (defensive specialist), Bullpen, and a veteran fourth Outfielder.<br /><br />...<br /><br />Targets: Toronto's John McDonald could be the perfect defensive specialist for Boston but good luck getting the Jays to trade him. <br /><br />What? A team would need luck to get us to trade Johnny Mac?Darren Priesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04577092117174508443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-66279006969498983562010-06-23T14:24:03.172-04:002010-06-23T14:24:03.172-04:00I MISS ROYI MISS ROYAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-53501601856298512732010-06-23T12:58:13.375-04:002010-06-23T12:58:13.375-04:00Alright. It's settled. Camp is the designated ...Alright. It's settled. Camp is the designated ground ball machine.Tao of Stiebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-40359861403107482852010-06-23T12:17:56.949-04:002010-06-23T12:17:56.949-04:00I liked the idea of Camp as closer until somebody ...I liked the idea of Camp as closer until somebody else pointed out that he's a ground ball machine and he's most useful coming on with runners on base to induce double plays like nobody's business - if he was closing games, he wouldn't have the chance to do that anymore, I'm not sure I trust anybody else in the bullpen in those types of situations anymore.Tyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11878921441543129555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-9158883598465560272010-06-23T10:57:46.429-04:002010-06-23T10:57:46.429-04:00I had a moment this weekend where I heard someone ...I had a moment this weekend where I heard someone mention Camp as a potential closer, and I thought "That's not the craziest thing I ever heard."<br /><br />So I guess that means I'm coming around.Tao of Stiebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-41205714510186945642010-06-23T10:53:37.106-04:002010-06-23T10:53:37.106-04:00Ty: Camp's been NAILS. After your comment I wa...Ty: Camp's been NAILS. After your comment I was interested to see how many times he's gone two innings; he's done it 5 times, by my count. But as his pitch breakdown shows, he's much better in short spurts. As for Frasor, you're right: it was a wacky move to leave him in. That was his first two innings appearance all season.<br /><br />Frasor's splits are strange. <br /><br />April: 9.2 IP, 8.38 ERA, 2.59 WHIP, .370 BAA.<br /><br />May: 11 IP, 0.82 ERA (only 1 earned run!!1), 0.73 WHIP, .167 BAA<br /><br />June: 7.2 IP, 8.22 ERA, 2.22 WHIP, .324 BAA<br /><br />Perhaps Cito was giving him a chance to work out some kinks last night. Trying to get him back to the GLORY days of May. Damn Sausage King.<br /><br />@ Tao: You order your Camp jersey yet, or what?Navin Vaswani (@eyebleaf)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08445618400360263938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-76733579036208938562010-06-23T10:39:03.580-04:002010-06-23T10:39:03.580-04:00eyebleaf, it's not that I don't trust Camp...eyebleaf, it's not that I don't trust Camp -- he's actually my favourite member of the Jays bullpen -- but I've been operating under the impression that one of his biggest strengths is his ability to pitch multiple innings, and my gripe was that Cito should have stuck with him for more than just 10 pitches. Looking at those stats, though, I guess my eyes have been deceiving me.<br /><br />And yeah, bullpen management notwithstanding, the game was already lost before either of those guys came in to pitch. I was just mostly baffled by the idea of using your two-inning guy for one inning, and your one-inning guy for two innings all of a sudden.Tyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11878921441543129555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-594274617928961502010-06-23T10:29:46.605-04:002010-06-23T10:29:46.605-04:00It's a crazy coincidence. And therefore, it is...It's a crazy coincidence. And therefore, it is Neat-O Mosquito.Tao of Stiebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12459135109404905466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-7756147036807150412010-06-23T10:20:39.109-04:002010-06-23T10:20:39.109-04:00Ty, I have no problem with Camp coming in for one ...Ty, I have no problem with Camp coming in for one inning, the 6th, of a 6-2 ball game. I don't. And take this for what it's worth, about Camp:<br /><br />Pitch 1-15: 27.1 IP, 0.33 ERA, 0.70 WHIP, .176 BAA<br /><br />Pitch 16-30: 9.0 IP, 9.00 ERA, 1.33 WHIP, .286 BAA<br /><br />Camp is, this season, clearly superior when he's not given the opportunity to throw more than 15 pitches. He threw 10 last night, 7 for strikes, and got out of the inning 1-2-3.<br /><br />I'm as frustrated as you by Jason Frasor; he's nothing like what he was last year. But that game was lost by Cecil, not Cito.Navin Vaswani (@eyebleaf)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08445618400360263938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-35661035611207101552010-06-23T10:17:31.379-04:002010-06-23T10:17:31.379-04:00Also, crazy coincidence time: you used the words &...Also, crazy coincidence time: you used the words "Clip and Save" in a post about the bullpen the night after the Nationals had a promotion called "Clipp and Save Night" in celebration of the surprisingly solid 8th and 9th inning guys in their own bullpen. That's pretty neato, unless you were aware of said promotion, in which case I guess it's not such a crazy coincidence after all.Tyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11878921441543129555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2484762138483195409.post-89338631921732599922010-06-23T10:12:12.645-04:002010-06-23T10:12:12.645-04:00It's becoming completely pointless to even dis...It's becoming completely pointless to even discuss Cito's bullpen management, but why would you use Shawn Camp for one inning, and immediately follow that by using Jason Frason for two innings? Unless it was an honest mistake: "Hey Bruce, let's use one kid, the short one with the funny ears, for one inning. Then we'll use that other kid for the next two, you know, the short one with the funny ears."Tyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11878921441543129555noreply@blogger.com